In this episode, Rob talks to Tania Hershman and Jo Bell about things that can’t be seen and things that erm.. perhaps shouldn’t (i.e. children). They also discuss their latest collections, the benefits of mentoring, how to make a buck in this racket, Anarchy, buttless chaps and everyone’s favourite: Ovid.

Music by Michael Brailey

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Namechecks: The Poetry School, The Soanes Museum, The Old Operating Theatre, Radio 4, David Morley, Kathryn Maris, Cork Poetry Festival, Luke Kennard, David Hartley, Ben Judge, Michael Brailey