In this episode, Rob talks to novelist and music journo, Ben Myers, about class, talking to famous people, the Cragg Vale coiners, writing about landscape and (of course) money. In between all that, they discuss his latest novel, Turning Blue.

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Links mentioned in the podcast:
Know your Place – Essays on the Working Class by Dead Ink publishing

Namechecks:

Socrates Adams, Claire Malcolm, Bluemoose books, Dodo Ink, Deak Ink, James Baldwin, David Peace, Nikesh Shukla, Trapeze publishing, Orion publishing, Galley Beggar Press, Moth publishing, Riz Ahmed, Garth Greenwell, Kit de Waal, Gregory Norminton, Stephen McGeagh