In this episode, Rob speaks to novelist Conrad Williams about Horror, the impending apocalypse, the distinction (or lack thereof) between genre and literary fiction, the Yorkshire Ripper, Conrad’s latest novel “Hell is Empty” and, of course, Hull. Trigger warning: Rob does the worst Trump impression known to man.

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Namechecks:

Nicholas Royle (again, sigh), Martin Amis, JK Rowling, International Horror Guild, Ramsey Campbell, Stephen Gregory, Thomas Ligotti, Derek Raymond, Helen Walsh, Stephen King