In this episode, Rob chats to Megan Hunter about the end of the world, fragments in literature, Communist theatre, motherhood, not finishing Nineteen Eighty-Four and her amazing debut novel The End We Start From. Rob and Kate talk sexy fiction, the writing process, George Saunders, angry eyebrows and loads of poetry guff.

This is the George Saunders article Kate talks about in this one.

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Namechecks:

Martin Kratz, George Saunders, Jon McGregor, Ocean Vuong, Kayo Chingonyi, Andrew McMillan, Eimear McBride, Monique Roffey, Rosie Garland, Maggie Nelson, Meg Rosoff, Patrick Ness, Mike Conley, Han Kang, Jenny Offil, David Markson, Anne Carson