In this episode, Rob chats to celebrated polymath writer, Sean O’Brien about short stories, cold spots in houses, postwar bomb sites as playgrounds, ghost stories and Hull. Rob and Kate come to you from the infamous pod yet again after a long break to talk Piers Morgan (gross, we hate him), British winters, park running, bad habits in writing, poetrypoetrypoetry, getting old and sports massages.

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Namechecks:

Piers Morgan (yuck), Comma Press, John Godberg, Elizabeth Bowen, Tony Harrison, Ted Hughes, David Storey, Penguin Random House, Bloodaxe books, Picador, Liverpool University Press, Sidereal Press, Rosie Garland, Stephen King, Phillip Pullman, Waterside Arts, Joanne Harris and The Poetry School